Discussion Concerning Hurricane Sandy and the Environment

It’s odd that we get taken aback by things already predicted by scientists. As global warming progresses, the storms will also become progressively stronger and more frequent. As we pray for our brothers and sisters well-being, we should also think about the choices we make today and their effects on our children.


I’m surprised that Tracy Chapman says, “You know the sun shines hotter than ever before.”
People skeptical of human-caused climate change have argued that solar activity is the main cause (or one of the main, non-human, causes) of warming. I don’t think that many atmospheric scientists believe that, though: http://www.livescience.com/1349-sun-blamed-warming-earth-worlds.html.


It was thought that ozone depletion led to more intense heat; I didn’t realize that changed.

Of course, I have seen scientific views change, and I think you will find, when this song was made (15 years ago?), views were different. For instance, on this video made in 2010(?), there is some question about Polar bear life, now we know they will become extinct. Also, Pluto was still a planet. One thing remains the same throughout: we need gas.

I don’t think she or anyone is blaming the sun. It’s the ozone that protects us from the sun’s rays. At least, I’m told that. And, it shouldn’t surprise you she said that because, even though she could come up with logical malarkey, she’s still a singer first. You should save your interweb finds to see if they change in years to come. I sometimes think that you believe if you can find it on the Internet it’s true.


I didn’t realize this song was written in 1995! (Or earlier maybe.)

I think that, 99% of the time, I have posted or shared something on-line only after very carefully considering the source and the impact of posting it.

From what I can tell, atmospheric scientists hypothesized as early as 1986 that Arctic ozone depletion would lead to cooler temperatures (http://acd.ucar.edu/~randel/JCli_99.pdf). That was confirmed, at least in part, by 1988 (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v332/n6164/abs/332501a0.html).

I don’t think it’s clear that she’s blaming the sun for global warming, but it could easily be interpreted that way, even though light and heat are two different things (i.e., the sun can’t possibly “shine hotter”).

Really, I am always happy to see anyone giving a crap about the environment. Judging by Facebook, all anybody cares about is what politicians want to do with the economy or with our sex organs.

Here’s another song I like a lot:
I especially like the line, “They’d dig for silver and for gold and leave the empty holes.”


Ha. That’s a great song. I never actually listened to the words. Deep. I actually remember when they first talked about the cooler temperatures being a result of Arctic depletion, but that was only the first part of the process of the warming. Also, light and heat are two different things, but I think light can and does produce heat. I’m not a scientist and I probably shouldn’t even stand for or against something based on what I don’t know myself, but it sort of feels right. Anyway, not arguing, just my thoughts.


Yeah, you’re right: light can and does produce heat. I guess I just thought it seemed like an oversimplification. Plus, from what I understand, the sun will constantly expand and grow brighter as it heads toward the end of its life cycle. The reason that the sun alone can’t explain global warming is that global temperatures have increased even in times of cyclically lower solar activity.

Here’s another song I like:

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